[civsa] "Why wasn't I admitted?"

[Scott Kirkessner]

Good morning CIVSA!

At my prior school, I was able to give denial decisions over the phone and in person and explain reasons why.  I pretty much answered similar to Andrew – by explaining the holistic process, but “unfortunately your GPA and/or SAT scores are not what we were looking for when we reviewed your application.”

I don’t answer these questions here at Utah – they are solely done by our Admissions Counselors.

Doing this over the phone is pretty easy – the big challenge is when they are sitting right in front of you, ESPECIALLY when they’ve come all this way for a campus tour, had a great experience, “Now can you tell us his admissions status?”

Oy.

Happy Wednesday, CIVSA!  Don’t forget to register for Conference before January 31 :)  Save your school some $$$

Scott




From: listserv [mailto:listserv-bounces at civsa.org] On Behalf Of Boehm, Andrew
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 8:08 AM
To: listserv at civsa.org
Subject: Re: [civsa] "Why wasn't I admitted?"

Hello Emily,

We get and take these calls daily.  Although we don't deny until our last possible notification date (March 15), only defer.  Either way the answer is similar, honest and usually goes something like this.

We do a holistic review, so it's not just one or two statistics although those are a part of the review process.  We also have an extremely competitive set of applications.  It's getting harder to gain admission every year.  Our first goal in reviewing applicants is trying to determine if a student is going to be successful here and we use an enormous amount of data to try and get this right. Retention rate is far more important to us than acceptance rate.

By the time I get here their head is usually spinning from not getting their, "it's your ACT score..." answer.

I am sure you get an incredible large number of applications so I've simply resorted to "we just can't accept everyone," answer.  They don't like that but they are already not happy with your university and simply won't be happy with any answer you give.

This is my experience and a great question for this thread.  I'm interested to see other responses.

Andrew


Andrew Boehm

Associate Director - Campus Visits and Events

Miami University Office of Admission

301 S. Campus Avenue - 41 CAB

Oxford, OH 45056

513-529-2580

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Emily Crosby <crosby at admissions.rutgers.edu<mailto:crosby at admissions.rutgers.edu>> wrote:
Hello CIVSA!

I just wanted to reach out and get a feel for which institutions out there entertain “Why Deny” questions from applicants. Do you often receive these sorts of calls and inquiries and if so, how do you handle them? Does anyone have a “we don’t answer these inquiries” disclaimer somewhere? Do you take every phone call like we do? I’d love to get a sense for how other people handle this one!

Thank you!
Emily Crosby


Admissions Officer
Campus Tour Coordinator
University Undergraduate Admissions
Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey
The Visitor Center
100 Sutphen Road, Piscataway, NJ  08854
(848) 445-1860<tel:%28848%29%20445-1860>


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